I liked this class because it was very calm and fun especially when doing the video projects. But, I would say that there was a lot of reading for this class which I found unnecessary. I also thought that for the longer books more time should have been given to complete it and same with the filming of the video. This class was a very time consuming although most of the information in the class was interesting. I would say I wished there was a more guidelines on what was expected on projects and leading discussions. I also hoped that we would have gotten more updates on how we were doing throughout the class.
When I first started watching GoodFellas I realized that I had already seen this movie. I seriously did not think this was based off a real story. This actually helped me get into the movie further. I think making a movie out off the Lecchese crime was a great idea. This allowed them to show how the gang worked from the inside and though you were an insider like Henry Hill or Tommy DeVino it was still dangerous because you could get sacked by people above you or you’re own friends. It shows how owing money, getting money, or even lack of respect could cause you to be killed. The characters in the story lived fabulous lives from stealing and trading things yet they cannot live to large that they are detected. If this was told in a book, I feel as if it would have been harder to captivate the actual fear that some had for the people in the crime family and how random their acts of violence could truly be. It would be harder to follow along and some important information could just as easily slip through our minds since the actual expression and actions are not seen with our own eyes although the movie is based on the novel Wiseguys.
I really liked these articles because they focused more on the family than Charles Manson himself. And unlike the movie Helter Skelter the article “Then It All Came Down” talks about other case of a member, Bobby Beausoleil, and the murder of Gary Hinman which was before the Tate and La Bianca murders. In the article it states that the the imprisonment of Bobby was the reason for the killing of Tate and La Bianca murder which makes those murders a lot less random and crazy. Since the Manson family was “family” they wanted to save their own, Bobby, I am somewhat disappointed that this was not a bigger part of Helter Skelter. This probably was left out to make the Manson family seem even more evil, so that it would look like they just killed for the sport of it when in reality it was to save a loved one, although still not acceptable it seems more reasonable.
With the article “Leslie Van Houten: A friendship Part 1 of 5″ depicts Leslie as a young girl who was just waking up after coma or sleep walk in which she did something wrong and did even realize until now what she did was wrong. I feel bad because she was brainwashed and she’s waking up from all the lies, the remorse just hits and I am sure she feels horrible but yet I you see the other side yes she still killed these people so she has to feel the consequence. Yet I don’t think Leslie should be completely let go of all the consequences of killing, she does now feel the remorse which is obviously delayed because of Charles Manson’s manipulation, shouldn’t that mean something? Also since she was brainwashed by Manson I believe Manson deserved a worse punishment than the girls yet they received the same sentence when he’s the one who ordered the killings.
I did not like this movie. The policemen kept easing up evidence; they walked all over the crime scene and touched the gun by the handle, then didn’t give it to the detectives in the case. Then in the end yeah they convict Manson but he got out of the death penalty and was eligible for parol same with his family. This really bothered me because he did not care for what happened to the Manson family or himself because I think he truly thought he was another Jesus.
This movie was a better way of learning about Manson and his crimes because we actually could see what was happening but it was extremely boring and if I didn’t have to watch the movie for class I would have either fallen asleep and or just ended immediately. I watched it with two other people that I believe could not stand it as well. We watched it literally criticizing the police the whole time even though they were the good guys. It also depicted the Mason as crazy people even though I’m sure they had to be a little more down to earth to be able to attract so many people, I am sure they could have been so psycho looking. To conclude do not watch this movie.
It is weird to think that Perry could have been a paranoid schizophrenic the whole time and him being the one that wasn’t sure whether to continue with the crime or not was the one that confessed to committing all four murders. Sadly although Perry was the one that perform the horrible crime, I still feel as if his death was a tragedy since he could have been mentally ill and he had been through so much when he was younger only to have his life end this way. I assume this is how Capote purposefully wrote this story because Dick was set up seeming as an average day criminal while Perry was somewhat different causing you to feel a little bad for Perry and not so much Dick. I am sure the murderers would be portrayed a lot different if the story focused on who the family was.
I watched part of it since I haven’t found the time and from what I hear she appears a few more times later in the season.
As the book went on you learn about the murder of Clutter but then you also learn about Perry and Dick. It bring to life their characters and that they too were people who went through hard stuff such as Perry being alone. I didn’t really like this because it made it hard for me to follow the reading.
The fact that there is a novel about this murder and a well known book for one, freaks me out. I find it someone sad that these people will not be remembered for who they were but for the murder really. Books based on true crimes sort of splits me because yeah I want to read them and learn about it but then I turn and realize people are making money off sad stories and only remembering these people on the way they died not who they are, I have nothing against the authors of true crime works it just makes me wonder.
So when I finished reading this I was somewhat confused on how she had been killed, I thought she was cut at the throat and gutted in a way but I was so soo wrong. I had looked up pictures and was so disturbed on how someone could mutilate a human like this. I then was talking to my roommate about how I had to read this for class and how horrible the killing was and I was shocked when she immediately recognized the story, since I had never heard it before. She said that there was a fictionalized story on American Horror Story “Spooky Little Girl” which had the details of how the body was discarded, cut up with the joker smile although not as gruesome. I also found a movie called The Black Dahlia. This actually made me realize how big the story of Elizabeth Short’s death was.